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Google Crawls RSS Feeds to Discover New Web Pages; AdSense for Feeds Now Available in Blogger
Posted by Nathania Johnson  Oct 30, 2009

Google recently launched a new feature that uses RSS and Atom feeds to discover new web pages. This helps Google index new webpages faster than traditional methods. As a result, you'll want to make sure that your robots.txt file allows Googlebot to crawl your feeds. To learn more about robots.txt from ...
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Local and Social: It's all Coming Together
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Google and Bing strike deals giving them access to real-time social feeds. What does it mean for the future of local search?
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Philosophy and Search: The Big Three Founders and the Philosophers
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Does the thinking of Google's Sergey Brin and Larry Page, Yahoo's Jerry Yang and David Filo, and Microsoft's Bill Gates mirror some of the great philosophers of history?
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News from the Search Engine Watch Blog

Google Tests Mortgage Comparison Ads, Updates Real Estate Search in Maps
Posted by Nathania Johnson   Oct 30, 2009

Google is vamping up its real estate search offerings with two new announcements. First up, AdWords is testing comparison ads in the mortgage/refinance vertical. The idea behind comparison ads is to help searchers filter what they're really searching for when they type in something like "mortgage." Check out this screen ...
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Google Homepage Test Now Instructs Searchers to Press Enter
Posted by Nathania Johnson   Oct 30, 2009

Google has added an element to their latest homepage test that instructs people what to do after they've entered a keyword. The sentence "Press enter to search," now appears under the box where you type in your keywords - where the old submit buttons used to be. Here's a screenshot. ...
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Anchor Intelligence Reports Decline in Click Fraud, Identifies New Hotspots
Posted by Nathania Johnson   Oct 30, 2009

Anchor Intelligence has released its click fraud report for the third quarter of 2009. It paints a different picture than the Click Forensics report that was recently released. Where Click Forensics saw an increase, Anchor Intelligence saw a decline. Overall, click fraud was 23.2% in Q3, down 14.3% from 27.1% in ...
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Google Flu Trends Intense in Canada, High in United States
Posted by Greg Jarboe   Oct 30, 2009

Okay, so Google Flu Trends has been around since November of 2008. But Google has found that certain search terms are good indicators of flu activity. Check out the world map below to see how Google Flu Trends uses aggregated Google search data to estimate flu activity. It is ...
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MapQuest Gets a Fresh Coat of Paint
Posted by Nathania Johnson   Oct 30, 2009

Earlier this week, Google updated the look of its mapping service and now MapQuest has done the same. The goal is to improve readability and give more accurate details such has a building's proportional footprint compared to the streets around it. Additionally, MapQuest says they've added new imagery for terrain and ...
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Microsoft and Yahoo! Deal Implementation Delayed, But Progress Made
Posted by Nathania Johnson   Oct 30, 2009

Yahoo! has filed a document with the SEC stating the obvious: that their search deal with Microsoft did not get finalized by October 27, 2009. But the statement also said that progress was being made: On October 28, 2009, Yahoo! Inc., a Delaware corporation ("Yahoo!"), and Microsoft Corporation, a Washington corporation ...
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Google Sends Another Letter to the FCC Explaining Voice
Posted by Nathania Johnson   Oct 30, 2009

Google has provided additional information to the FCC's regarding Google Voice. You might remember that Google already responded to FCC's questions about Google Voice and why a mobile app for it was rejected for the iPhone. This time, Google Voice is responding to concerns raised by AT&T about restricting calls to ...
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Search Engine Watch Forum Discussions

Language suggestion when setting geo-targeting?  Oct 27, 2009
Maybe this is old news, but has anyone seen a new message under the Locations, Languages, and Demographics section of campaign settings that says: Based on your targeted locations, you may want to target pages that use these interface languages: * English * French * German * Japanese * Spanish I changed geo-targeted from state to metro ...
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Google says "Below First Page Bid" even with no competion  Oct 24, 2009
I'm not understanding this. I placed an ad using Google's suggested bid (0.35) - my ad ran for couple hours then disappeared. Back at the control panel Google tells me I need to raise my bid to 0.45 to be on first page. So I do that - and my ad ...
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Multiple sites switching IP's?  Oct 26, 2009
At this comapny we have like 30 differente sites. many of them on same IP some of the lesser sites have a PR of 2 i was going to create micro sites and market the main products but since these centent sites have pr of 2, what if i switch them ...
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Bing and Twitter and Facebook  Oct 23, 2009
Ok the announcement is out - now what are people seeing as far as results etc go and how do you think this can help you. I see some ORM benefits - but unless you have a link in the tweet how do you drive traffic using them?
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SEW Expert - Frank Watson Philosophy and Search: The Big Three Founders and the Philosophers
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By Frank Watson, SEW, Oct 30, 2009
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Reading the book "Plato and a Platypus Walk into a Bar: Understanding Philosophy Through Jokes" last week made me look at what we know about the philosophies of the founders of the Big Three -- Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft (if my conclusions are wrong, feel free to take me to dinner and rectify the situation, guys).

Quotes for comparative purposes have been taken from various news stories and videos of speeches they have given over the years.

Google's Sergey Brin and Larry Page

Brin, in an interview with an Israeli news service, said (among many insightful things) that in the future, with the benefit of computers and mobile devices, you "will see the world's knowledge as an extension of your own knowledge" -- an almost Descartian philosophy. "I Google, therefore I am."

Meanwhile, Page gave some personal insights at the University of Michigan commencement this year, as well as some advice to the graduates that may reflect his past philosophical reading. "How do you change the world?" he asked the crowd rhetorically. "Always work hard on something uncomfortably exciting," he answered.

This, perhaps, echoes a little Hobbes who saw the world before the Industrial Revolution as "nasty, brutish and short" and that the "only escape is by entering into contracts with each other -- mutually beneficial agreements to surrender our individual interests in order to achieve the advantages of security that only a social existence can provide."

But then again, Sigmund Freud may have influenced him when he said, "sometimes it is important to wake up and stop dreaming" -- something the pair obviously have done.

The duo that gave us "Do No Evil" may also have read "Beyond Good and Evil" by Friedrich Nietzsche. In this instance, "evil" is given an interesting interpretation, which may give insight into the inside joke of this mantra:

"Good" initially and properly designated only the right of those individuals with social and political power to live their lives by sheer force of will. But a "priestly" caste, motivated by their resentment of their natural superiors, generated a corrupt alternative that would appeal to "the herd" of less capable persons, turning values inside-out. In the "slave morality" endorsed by religious establishments, Nietzsche argued, forceful action which should be admired gets labelled as "evil," while the cowardly tendency to think through everything in advance is transformed into the supposed virtue of prudence.

Hopefully, that wasn't their reference.

Yahoo's Jerry Yang and David Filo

Filo is notoriously media shy. However, the few times he's been interviewed in his position as overseer of technology, the importance of open source and integrating has been a big theme.

"The company has embraced open pretty much throughout the entire thing. It is very important to us," he has stated.

This outlook mirrors the universal brotherhood of man as it appears in the works of classical Greek and Roman philosophers, including Plato, Aristotle, and the Stoics. So, in essence, he is old school.

The power of community was a constant topic of the early philosophers and is also the argument for open source. Another interesting fact: Filo introduced Page and Brin to Silicon Graphics for their server space and invested in the company.

Yang, who has been the external face of Yahoo, is more quotable and gives more of his worldview. From his centrist views, "...we're focused on what we do best -- being the center of people's online lives," to "At Yahoo we want to be most essential starting point for your life," and "...take the complexity of the Web and simplify your life through very powerful technologies," Yang could have been grabbing from one of Plato's works. Plato spent most of his career discussing what would be needed for a Utopian community.

"The Republic is Plato's statement of what the ideally best city is; the Laws, on the other hand, describes the city that would be best, given less optimistic assumptions about what human nature is capable of," according to Stanford University Online. While Yahoo and Google foster an air of communal happiness, Yahoo is the older company and would be the more appropriate fit in search lineage.

Microsoft's Bill Gates

Finally, someone who loves to talk about everything. Gates has never been accused of being reticent. He has an aggressive and creative approach to his business.

Philosophically, he aligns well with Sun Tzu, the author of "The Art of War." Some of Gates' quotes:

  • "In this business, by the time you realize you're in trouble, it's too late to save yourself. Unless you're running scared all the time, you're gone."

  • "The first rule of any technology used in a business is that automation applied to an efficient operation will magnify the efficiency. The second is that automation applied to an inefficient operation will magnify the inefficiency."

  • "The Internet is becoming the town square for the global village of tomorrow."

  • "Whether it's Google or Apple or free software, we've got some fantastic competitors and it keeps us on our toes."

These quotes can be linked to such chapters from Tzu as:

  • Tactical Dispositions, which covers the importance of defending your ground before you expand and how recognizing the right opportunities is better than creating them.

  • Waging War, which details the economics of war, making the right moves leads to success and eliminating competition and conflict."

  • Attack by Stratagem, which discusses the strength comes from unity as opposed to size, and the ingredients you need to succeed in any war."

  • The Use of Spies, in which Sun Tzu noted: "what enables the wise sovereign and the good general to strike and conquer, and achieve things beyond the reach of ordinary men, is foreknowledge."

Hope this was as amusing to read as it was to write. Add your thoughts in the comments.

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Biography

Frank Watson has been involved with the Web since it started. For the past five years, he headed SEM for FXCM -- at one time one of the top 25 spenders with AdWords. He has worked with most of the major analytics companies and pioneered the ability to tie online marketing with offline conversion.

He has now started his own marketing agency, Kangamurra Media. This new venture will keep him busy when he is not editing the Search Engine Watch forums, blogging at a number of authoritative sites, and developing some interesting online community sites.

He was one of the first 100 AdWords Professionals, a Yahoo and Overture Ambassador, and a member or mod of many of the industry forums. He is also on the Click Quality Council and has worked hard to diminish click fraud.

Article Archives by Frank Watson:
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» Team Work Has More Rewards Than a Group Effort - October 16, 2009
» There Are No Search Rock Stars - October 2, 2009
» Internet Marketing is Like Talking to Children - September 4, 2009
» Is Google the Lazy Man's Marketing Method? - August 21, 2009
» Rupert: Pass the Media Giant on to Younger Minds - August 10, 2009
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